Christian
Kropf/Cropp/Grubb (Sr.) Family
Germany(or Switz) and Pennsylvania
Christoph/Christian Grubb Sr.
(Cropp/Kropf/Kroph)
b. before 1680 Germany or Switzerland
[based on minimum age of sons in 1729]
d. after Sept. 1729 probably in Pennsylvania or Virginia
m. Rosina (unknown
date but probably before 1684 in Germany or Switzerland
[based on minimum age of sons in 1729]
b. before 1664 Germany
d. unknown date probably in Germany
her father: unknown mother: unknown
his father: unknown
his mother: unknown
| Children |
(possibly a cousin or uncle)
Daniel Kropf/Grubb
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b. ?
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d.
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m. immigrates on the "Allen" in 1729 but removed on the list
from the others, listed as "sick" |
| Andreas Grubb |
b. probably before 1701 in Wittgenstein region of Germany |
d. probably in USA
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m.
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| Jacob Grubb* |
b. probably before 1702 in Wittgenstein region of Germany |
d. |
m. |
| Christoph /
Christian Grubb jr.* |
b. c 1703 probably in Wittgenstein region of Germany
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d. |
m. Rosine
Kipp
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*based on the listing of the ship "Allen" and possible birthdate.
1729, before Sept
We know for certain that
Christian
Grubb Sr. and his family were members of the Brethren church,
also
known as the Anabaptists, Dunkers or German Baptists. There is a
list of
converts who joined the German Baptist Brethren in Europe which
includes the names of Daniel, Jacob, Andrew, Christian and Christian
Cropp Jr. Meaning, of
course, that they joined before 1729 when they came to the colonies on
the ship "Allen" that arrived in the colonies from Rotterdam on
September 11, 1729, James Craigie, master. ["Passengers of the Allen" -
The Brethren Network].
1729- Sept 15 - The "Allen" ,
Captain James Crigs/Craigie from;
Rotterdam by
way of Cowes arrived in Philadelphia. It held 59 families that
made up 126 persons (actually list contains 132 by my
count).
An earlier date for the ship seems to
indicate when in was in Cowes, Isle of Wight, GB, 7 July
1728.
as listed in the record of the "Allen" 15 Sept 1729.
#34 Christoph Kropf
#35 Rosina
#36 Andreas
Kropf
#37 Jacob Kropf
"sick"
#38 Christoph
Kropf, jun.
second to the last in the list
#130 Daniel Kropf
Ms. Whipple, in her article on
the Brethern, indicates that the
group of Brethren were led by Alexander
Mack, a minister from Surhuisterveen, Holland. Apparently Mack
went into Germany converted and recruited pilgrims to emigrate.
Listed on the Allen was also Allexander Mack, Johannes Mack, Velten
Mack, and Allexander Mack, Jun. The area that they came from is
identified as the region of
Wittgenstein. I
found the
general area and the actual town of Wittgenstein only a few miles west
of the town of Laasphe. This is almost exactly in the
middle of a triangle made by the towns of Koln, Kassels and
Frankfurt in present day Germany. This prince of this area of
Germany became a protector for desenters of most protestant sect and
drew to it by reputation German and Swiss individuals. [Whipple,
Judith Cox, "European Origins of the Brethren"]
There has always been a question about how or why Christian came to the
colonies. We feel certain that it was to
escape persecution for his religious beliefs. The Anabaptist, as
a
group, believed that infant baptism was much too premature and
began urging re-baptism of the populous. They also believed that
swearing an oath of loyalty to anyone but God was wrong. This was
viewed as
blasphemy and treasonous and brought down reactions that included
psychological and physical abuse including being burned at the
stake.
All the men listed here were
also listed
as passengers on the "Allen" along with Rosine Kropf, who is listed on
some copies of the ship manifest separately. In the list there
were no
Kropf/Grubb/Cropp children
under the age
of 15 with this name. Along on this same ship with Allexander
Mack, Johannes Mack, Velten Mack, and Allexander Mack, Jun.
Reverend Mack was the leader who brought the group to Pennsylvannia.
[ship manifest
We know that a Christian Grubb had come
from Germany in 1738 on the "Robert and Alice". He was listed as
age 35. Many have assumed for years that our Christian Grubb came
with his family in 1738. This is not proved with the ships
roster. The complete roster lists him apparently traveling
without wife or
children but there were others on board that were going
to Lancaster, PA as he was. That may be important to the history but
their connection to him is unknown at this time. At age 35
in 1738 would mean he
was born in 1703 or 29 years old at entering the colonies in 1729 on
the "Allen",
since all the children had be at less than 15 years old and he was not
listed as a child, and meaning that
he could not be the father of the children of the earlier
list. He needs to be the apparently youngest son of
Christian Sr. according to the order of the list.
Subsequent records from the Peaked Mountain Church indicate that
Rosine, although listed as the wife of the Christian Sr., seems to be
the wife of Christian Jr. She has to have been married to Christian Jr.
in Germany and had no children until in the colonies.
Travel in 1738 from Germany was considered to be "The Year of the
Destroying Angels" for the number of people who died. The German
serfs had undergone many challenges with swinging allegences of the
local rulers toward various religions. Lutherans and
Catholics seemed be able to allow some freedom to worship but when
Calvinism became official religion of the Elector many Protestants
wanted to leave the area of German Palatine. The desperation of the
serf locked farmers forced them to clog the border areas of Holland on
their way to the ports of Rotterdam looking for passage to the
Colonies. The Dutch authorities were worried that holding them
for a long time at the border would create a situation of potential
outbreaks of epidemic. The Dutch commanderied ships from England
and their own fleets to eleviate the pressure. One record
citing the Wurts records says that of the over 6,500 people who boarded
ships some 24 ships in this year 2,260 people died on the voyage.
More information on these voyages can be found on this Ship
Ordeal web page.
1738, Sept. 11 - Christian Grub[sic]
arrived at
Philadephia, PA from Rotterdam on board the "Robert and Alice."
All male passengers signed into the ship's log. Christian signed in
German as Christian Krupf. His age is listed as 35 and seems to be
traveling without wife or children.
All passengers were required to take an Oath of Allegiance to the King
of England. Christian signed in his native language of German.
Because of the earlier record of Christian and family entering in 1729
on the "Allen" original theories of the family have had to be
revised. The Christian Grub entering on the "Robert and Alice"
must be Christian JR. [roster of the "Robert and Alice",
Progenealogist
1/20/07]
[List of immigrants taking "oath" Sept.11, 1738 Philadelphia] Christian
Grub was on the list of immigrants taking the "oath in 1738.
1761- Christian Grubb first known land purchase in Frederick Co., VA.
Purchase was made 24 JUN 1761...from Burr Harrison and wife, Mary Anne
to Christian Grub, 400 acres in Frederick Co. on Stoney Creek. [Deed
Book 12, page 566, recorded 1768]
We, however, don't know which
Christian this refers to. We feel this had to be Christian Jr. since
Christian Sr. would have been 101 years old by this date. Christian Jr.
would still be 59 years old by this date if my calculations are
correct.
1762, SEPT 25 - Jacob Grubb purchases, 250a. "On the waters of Smiths
Creek near the foot of the Peeked Mountains." [Patents No. 35, 1762-64,
p.13, Augusta County, VA]
Baptismal records of the church in 1762 state that Jacob was 26 years
old., Daniel was 24 and Margaret was 18.
A (AD) This then must be a
grandchild of Christian Sr.
1762. At the "Pinquit" (Peaked) Mountain and the South
"Chanithor" (Shenandoah), in Virginia, the following children were
baptized on Saturday, February 27th [note 2]:
| parents |
children |
sponsor |
Christian Kroph
and wife |
(35)Jacob , aged 26,years |
John Jacob Nicolaus and wife Anna Barbara Rosina, nee Kipp |
| (ditto) |
(36) Daniel, age 24 |
Jacob Arkebrech (Argenbright) and wife Susanna |
| (ditto) |
(37) Margaret, age 18 years |
I.C. Van Gemuenden,the Reformed minister wife, M.A. Van
Germuenden, also Jacob Perschinger, Reformed elder, and wife Maria
Catharine |
Peter Mueller (Miller) and wife Margaret
|
(51) Jacob, born April 17, 1785; bapt. June 18
|
Jacob Croop and wife Barbara
Peter Mueller and Margaret is
actually the Margaret, daughter of Christian Kroph, Jr.. Her
brother is the sponsor of the baptism |
Jacob Croop and wife Anna Barbara
|
(63) John, born March 9, 1765; bapt. June 18
|
John Argebrecht and Catharine Vogt
|
Daniel Grub and Elizabeth
|
(88)Mary Catharine, born December 15, 1775
|
Peter Miller and wife Anna Maria
|
Martin Finder and Barbara
|
(91) Barbara, born Feb. 24, 1776
|
Jacob Grub and Barbara
|
Marriages in 1762:
On March 2. Jacob Kropp (Cropp), son of Christian
Kropp and Anna
Barbara Metzger, daughter of Eroge Valentine Metzger
On March 2. Peter Mueller, son of Henry Mueller, and Margaret
Kropp, daughter of Christian Kropp.
On Saturday, Feb. 27, 1762 was received as a member of the
congregation, upon confession of her faith, Margaret Kropp (Cropp)
[Peaked Mountain Church Record, edited by Prof. Wm. J. Hinke and
Charles Kemper]
|
The Peaked Mountain Church was an early German Lutheran church and
holds some of the earliest records of colonist of German descent. In
various records of the Peaked Mountain Church, their last name is
spelled at least three different ways. Early records spell the name as
Krupt, later changed to Kruph, translated as Croop, late listings as
Grub or Grubb. This has be Christian Jr. for the same reasons of
age and the children would have to be his adult children.
According to the records of Peaked Mountain Church, Rockingham Co., VA
all of the eight children of Christian Grub did not come over on the
"Robert and Alice". Records of the church refer to his "5 sons and 3
dau."
Ernest Grubb writes:
that the "Peaked Mountain Church.(is) located near the Old
Frederick and Augusta Co. line. I think at first the location was very
close to the line because both the families of Christian, who lived in
Frederick, and 3 of his children, who lived in "then" Augusta, now
Rockingham, were baptized and attended there as early as 1762. The
church was re-built once before it was decided to join with a nearby
Reform church...the articles joining the churches were signed by Jacob
and Daniel (sons of Christian) and also Peter Miller, a son-in-law. The
church was re-located to a point near the town of Magaheysville, VA and
called The Reformed Lutheran Church" [ Ernest Grubb email of 19 Nov
1997]
1769, March - the will of Christian Grubb is probated. [Will Book 5, p.
477. Federick Co., Virginia]
Will dated 4 March1769. Frederick County Will book 5 page 477
It was recorded in Winchester in Frederick Co., VA. Catherine is
named as his wife and all of his eight children. Abraham, his son, was
named executor of the estate. He also inherits the bulk of the estate
beside being the controller of his mother's share. We must assume that
Abraham is the oldest of the children by the position as executor. This
probably means that he was the oldest of the surviving children. He
could possibly be the oldest surviving male child. Christian apparently
dies within the month of between Mar. 4 and Apr. 4 of 1769
Frederick County Clerk's Office, Winchester, VIRGINIA dated March 4,
1769 Proven April 4, 1769.
In the Name of God Amen I Christian Grubb of Frederick County
in the
Colony of Virginia being Weak in Body but of sound Memory Blessed be
God do as it to day this fourth day of March in the Year of our Lord
one Thousand Seven hundred and Sixty nine make and Publish this by Last
Will & Testament in manner following (that is to say) First I give
my son Jacob Grubb the sum of three Pounds one Pound to be paid
one
Year after my Decease and one pound to be paid one Year after my
Decease and one Pound three Years after my Decease also I Give to my
son Daniel Grubb and to my daughter Barbara Grubb and Catharine
Grubb
and Frank Grubb and John Grubb and Margaret Grubb
Each of them the sum
of five Shillings to paid on demd. after my decease and also I give
unto my son Abraham Grubb to his Heirs and Assigns that
Plantation or
Tract of Land I now Live on situate on Stoney Creek in this County also
I Give to my wife Catharine Grubb the third part of my whole
Estate
during her Natural Life and Widowhood and what Remains of my Estate
& Cattle and Houshold goods all and every I Give to my Son Abraham
Grubb to his Heirs and Assigns forever and I make and ordain him my
said son Abraham Grubb Sole Executor of this my Last Will in
Trust for
the Intents and purposes in this my Will Contained to take Care and see
the same Performed according to my True Intent and meaning in Witness
whereof I the said Christian Grubb have to this my Last Will and
Testament set my hand and seal the day and Year above Written Signed
Sealed & Delivered by the said Christian Grubb as and for
His Last
Will and Testament in the Presence of us who were present at the )
Signing and sealing thereof)
his
Jacob r Rinker Senr
mark
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his
Christian C Grubb
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his
John X Crenwine
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| Jacob Rinker Junr. |
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At a Court Held for Frederick County April 4 1769.
This Last Will and Testament of Christina Grubb decd. was proved by the
oaths of the Witnesses thereton and ordered to be recorded. Upon the
Motion of Abraam Grubb the Executer therein Named, who made oath therto
Certificate is Granted him for obtaining a Probate therof In due form
he having entered into Bond together with Jacom Rinker and Matthias
Painter his Securitys in the Penalty of Two hundred Pounds Conditioned
for Faithful Adminstration & the sd. Decedents Estate.
By the Court
. . . Ja. Keith C. Ct.
This is to certify that the foregoing will of Christian Grubb is
a
true copy of record as found in the Frederick County Clerk's Office at
Winchester, Virginia.
signed Lucy K. Holister, Notary Public in and for County of Frederick ,
State of Virginia, Feb. 11, 1967
The following inventory of Christina Grubb's estate gives further
information on its assessed value.
INVENTORY OF CHRISTINA GRUBB, DECD. WILL BOOK 3 - PAGE 503 -
RECORDED AUGUST 2, 1769
FREDERICK COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, WINCHESTER, VIRGINIA
"An Atteachment of the Personal Estate of Christina Grubb Deceased of
Frederick County in the Colny of Virginia which being Appraised by John
Six Cullip Sink & Isaac Funkhouser the Twenty ninth day of July
1769"
| One bay Mare £7..10 one Dun Horse £2..5 .... |
9..15..0 |
| One Bay Horse £5.. 10......................... |
5..10..0 |
| One Cow Bells £2..2 ..one Cow with Star on Forehead
.... |
3..17..0 |
| One Heifer £ 1..7 1 Black Heifer 18/ 1 Bull £2
.... |
3.. 5..0 |
| One Black Bull 18/ one Specked Heifer 14/........ |
1..12..0 |
| One Black Heifer 10/ one Specked Bull 8 / 1 Cow Calf 4 ....
|
1.. 2..0 |
| one Red Calf 4/ one Calf 5/ 1 Cow and Calf £2..10 |
2..19..0 |
| A Parcel of Hogs £3 1 Truck Wagon £ 1 .........
|
4.. 0..0 |
| Seven Hives of Bees £2 Nine Empty Bee Hives 11/ |
2..11..0 |
| One Cross Cut saw £1 Cooper Tools 13/ ..... |
1..13..0 |
| Seven Augers 15/ four Chisels and a pair Pinchers 5/ .... |
1.. 0..0 |
| One Adse and Trumpery 5/ one Log Chain 7/ ...... |
0..12..0 |
| Two Grubing hoes 11/ one Maul and Wedges 6/ ..... |
0..17..0 |
| Two Axes 5/ Three Weading hoes 9/ one Gun 12/ ...... |
1.. 6..0 |
| One prow 2/6/ Three sicles 2 Oats Credles & sizes 8/
.... |
0..17..6 |
| One grindstone 10/ one Saddle 8/ some Horse Gears 5/ ..... |
1.. 3..0 |
| Two Iron Pots and 2 Pans & other Implements 13/
........... |
0..13..0 |
| Pewter War 12/ Cooper Ware 13/ ............. |
1.. 5..0 |
| Four Powdering Tubs and other Implements 9/ ....... |
0.. 9..0 |
| One Half Barrel and other Implements 10/ .......... |
1.. 8..0 |
| Plough & Plough Tacklings 18/ 6 Books 10/ ........ |
1.. 8..0 |
| One Chest 8/ one Half Bushel 3/ 1 Taylor Share 1/ ...... |
0..12..0 |
| Some Bottles 3/ Three Bells 4/ three Bags 7/ 1 Sickle 8/
..... |
1.. 2..0 |
| Gold Seales 4/ Wheat and Rie £5/10 ........... |
5..14..0 |
| Cash 17/ one Mortar 3/ .................... |
0.. 2..6 |
At a court Continued and Held for Frederick County August 2nd 1769
This
Appraise of the Estate of Christina Grubb Decd. was Returned in to
Court ordered to be Recorded.
By the Court
James Keith ...... C. Ct.
from a transcribed copy made in Feb. 11, 1967 Frederick Co.,
Viriginia
1769 Mar- We know that Abraham was named executor of Christian's
will and received 2/3 of the land. He sold this to Abel Roberts 6 years
after his father's death and also sold his mother's share after her
death in 1778.
1771- 3 Aug. - Jacob Grubb purchases 79 acres. "On the north side of
the Picked Mountain on a branch of Smith's Creek." [Patents No. 40,
1771-72, p.620, Augusta County, VA]
In a letter 3 Feb 1963, Polly Phillips of Knoxville, TN. a
descendant
of Jacob Jr. written to Olive Grubb Devore.
"Jacob Grub lived in Grainger Co., Tennessee in 1815. Jacob Jr.
lived near Luttrell. Barbara Grub the wife of old Jacob predeceased
Jacob, and he remarried. The name of wife No. 2 we never learned, She
was always referred to as "that woman". It seems that she got all Jacob
had and his children were left without an inheritance. They and their
children were used to being well off. Jacob was living in Jefferson
County, Tenn. when he died. The area is now covered with the waters of
Cherokee Lake. In the 1830's he was a member of the "Black Oak" Baptist
Church. If the church records were available we might find some record
of him. Jacob's land in Grainger Co. was in the Indian Cave vicinity...
source:
Whipple, Judith Cox quote from "European Origins of the Brethren":
A
Source book of the Beginnings of the Church of the Bretehren in the
Early Eighteenth Century, Elgin, Illinois., The Brethren Press, 1958,
pp. 296-298. The Church of the Brethren Network -
http://www.cob-net.org/
Hinke, Prof. William J. and Kemper, Charles E. editors. Records of
the
Peaked Mountain Church, Rockingham Co., VA.
Grubb, Georgia Jane. "My Name's Grubb", by Lib. of Cong. #75-27342
Wust, Klaus. "The Year of the Destroying Angels-1738" from Beyond
Germanna, Vol. 10, Number 1, January 1998. segements are also reproduced on
rootsweb.ancestry.com.
Land records of Frederick Co., VA.
Passenger List of the "Allen" 15 Sept 1729 -
ProGenealogist.com
Passenger List
of the "Robert and Alice" Sept. 11, 1738 - ProGenealogist.com.
Probate records of Frederick Co., VA. Will Book 5, p. 477.
records of Olive Grubb DeVore and George Wanger, Grubb family
historian, 1913,
records of Ernest Grubb. Egrubb@a-o.com
Will of Christian Grubb, Will Book 3, pg. 477, proved 4 APR 1769;
Frederick Co., VA.
Franklin State / Sullivan Co.,
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