Christian
Grubb Jr. Family
Germany(or Switz) and Pennsylvania
Christian Grubb(Cropp/Kropf/Kropp) JR.
b. c1703 Germany (age according to ship 1738 doc.)
d. Mar 1769 Frederick County, Virginia
m. Catherine Rosina Kipp about
1729-32
(probably in Germany)
b. abt 1722 Germany
d. abt 1778 Virginia
her father: unknown mother: unknown
his father: Christian Cropp /Kropf
his mother: Rosina ?
| Children |
| Abraham Grubb (1)* |
b. 1732 GER( |
d. 1812 Sullivan Co., Tenn. |
m. Elizabeth c1765 (b. Penn. ) |
| Barbara Grubb |
b. |
d . |
m. Martin Finder |
| Catherine Grubb* |
b. |
d. |
m. |
| Frank Grubb* |
b. |
may have stayed in PA |
no records of this person have been found to date |
| John Grubb* |
b. |
d. may have stayed in PA |
no records of this person have been found to date |
| Jacob Grubb |
b. abt 1736 # |
d. abt 1802 Probably Sullivan County, TN |
m. Anna Barbara Metzger 02 MAR 1762 Augusta County, VA (dau
of Eroge Valetine Metzger and Anna Elisabeth ?) |
| Daniel Grubb |
b. abt 1738# |
d. |
m. Elizabeth (Grubb) |
| Anna Maria "Margaret" Grubb |
b. abt 1744 # |
d. |
m. Peter Miller SR. -
2 Mar 1762 Aug. Co., VA ,son of Henry Mueller |
* children proved by will of Christian Grubb
# birth dates by baptismal records of Peak Mountain Church.
For years we believed that Christian Grubb and his family came on the
"Robert and Alice" in 1738. Recently we became aware of the
family
entering on the "Allen" in 1729. This has caused us to reassess
the alignment of the first two known generation in the colonies.
Although this family is the family listed by Jane Grubb Creel's book
"My
Name's Grubb," the baptismal records of the Peak Mountain Church casts
doubts about the birthdates of the children as reported in her book, .
The order of birth may actually be different than we have listed for
the first four children. Abraham became executor of the estate of
Christian Grubb and we (Ernest Grubb and Cheryl G.) therefore conclude
he must be the oldest although he could be the oldest of the surviving
children as easily. Or perhaps simply the oldest son.
1729-
We know for certain that
Christian
Grubb Sr. and his family were members of the Brethren church,
also
known as the Anabaptists or German Baptists. There is a list of
converts who joined the German Baptist Brethren in Europe which
includes the names of Daniel, Jacob, Andrew, Christian and Christian
Cropp Jr. [Brethren Church Rec.] Meaning, of
course, that they joined before 1729 when they came to the colonies on
the ship "Allen" that arrived in the colonies from Rotterdam on
September 11, 1729, James Craigie, master. ["Passengers of the Allen" -
The Brethren Network]. All the men listed here were also listed
as passengers on the "Allen" along with Rosine Kropf, is identified by
position on the list as the wife of Christian Sr. There were no
children under the age
of 15 with this name. On this list were fifty-nine families from
Palatine area of Germany that made up "about hundred and twenty six
persons" (I counted 132).
Daniel Kropf is listed as "sick" as well as being separately listed
many individuals away from the others in the list. We believe
this means that he was not child of Christian Sr. but could have been a
brother or cousin. [roster of Progenealogits]
as listed in the record:
Christoph Kropf
Rosina
Andreas
Kropf "sick"
Jacob Kropf
Christoph
Kropf, jun.
second to the last in the list
Daniel Kropf
Ms. Whipple indicates that the group of Brethren were led by Alexander
Mack, a minister from Surhuisterveen, Holland. Apparently Mack
went into Germany converted and recruited pilgrims to emigrate.
The area that they came from is identified as the region of
Wittgenstein. I
found the
general area and the actual town of Wittgenstein only a few miles west
of the town of Laasphe. This is almost exactly in the
middle of a triangle made by the towns of Koln, Kassels and
Frankfurt in present day Germany. [
Whipple, Judith Cox - Brethren Network]
There has always been a question about how or why Christian came to the
colonies. We feel certain that it was to
escape persecution for his religious beliefs. The Anabaptist or
Dunkers, as
a
group, believed that infant baptism was much too premature and
began urging re-baptism of the adult populous. They also believed
that
swearing an oath of loyalty to anyone but God was wrong. This was
viewed as
blasphemy and treasonous and brought down reactions that included
psychological and physical abuse including being burned at the
stake. [Brethren Network]
We know that Christian Jr first came in 1729. We know that both
Christian and
Christian Jr. came at the same time with his father's wife.
I believe that the
family we have here on this page is actually Christian Jr. He had
to have been an adult over age 15 when he came here and according to
the 1738 ship record in which he was 35, this would have made him 29
years old in 1729. We believe he was born then in Germany but his
children would have to be born in the colonies. If the other
children's birthdates are correct, he may have been gone only for
a year or two. Since Rosini Kropf is listed next to Christian
Sr. in the
Progenealogits records , I
assumed her to be his wife and the probably mother of Christian
Jr. In the Peak Mountain church record of 1762, however, we
know that Christian was married to "Rosina,
nee Kipp". Christian Grubb
Sr. would probably have died by this point based on the age of
Christian on his trip in 1738. I believe that Christian Sr. would
have been minimally 94 years old 1762.
1738, Sept. 11 - Christian Grub[sic] arrived at
Philadephia, PA from Rotterdam on board the "Robert and Alice."
He is apparently traveling be himself and his age is listed as 35 years
old. No other Grub/Grubb/Krupf are on board. He does
list his destination as Lancaster, we believe PA. There are
several other families that are also going to Lancaster in the
list. We don't know if they had any relationship with our
Christian.
All male passengers signed into the ship's log. Christian signed in
German as Christian Krupf. Wanger believed that Christian Grubb
possibly came from Germany. Others believe they may have been from the
German speaking region of Switzerland. [records of Devore &
Wanger]
All passengers were required to take an Oath of Allegiance to the King
of England. Christian signed in his native language of German.
[List of immigrants taking "oath" Sept.11, 1738 Philadelphia]
The Grubs went to Pennsylvania first then to Virginia.
1761- Christian Grubb first known land purchase in Frederick Co., VA.
Purchase was made 24 JUN 1761...from Burr Harrison and wife, Mary Anne
to Christian Grub, 400 acres in Frederick Co. on Stoney Creek. [Deed
Book 12, page 566, recorded 1768]
1762, SEPT 25 - Jacob Grubb purchases, 250a. "On the waters of Smiths
Creek near the foot of the Peeked Mountains." [Patents No. 35, 1762-64,
p.13, Augusta County, VA]
Baptismal records of the church in 1762 state that Jacob was 26 years
old., Daniel was 24 and Margaret was 18.
A (AD) 1762. At the "Pinquit" (Peaked) Mountain and the South
"Chanithor" (Shenandoah), in Virginia, the following children were
baptized on Saturday, February 27th [note 2]:
| parents |
children |
sponsor |
Christian Kroph
and wife Rosina, nee Kipp |
(35) Jacob , aged 26,years |
John Jacob Nicolaus and wife Anna Barbara
|
| (ditto) |
(36) Daniel, age 24 |
Jacob Arkebrech (Argenbright) and wife Susanna |
| (ditto) |
(37) Margaret, age 18 years |
I.C. Van Gemuenden,the Reformed minister wife, M.A. Van
Germuenden, also Jacob Perschinger, Reformed elder, and wife Maria
Catharine |
The Peaked Mountain Church was an early German Lutheran church and
holds some of the earliest records of colonist of German descent. In
various records of the Peaked Mountain Church, their last name is
spelled at least three different ways. Early records spell the name as
Krupt, later changed to Kruph, translated as Croop, late listings as
Grub or Grubb.
[ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/rockingham/churches/peakmtn.txt]
According to the records of Peaked Mountain Church, Rockingham Co., VA
all of the eight children of Christian Grub did not come over on the
"Robert and Alice". Records of the church refer to his "5 sons and 3
dau."
Ernest Grubb writes:
that the "Peaked Mountain Church.(is) located near the Old
Frederick and Augusta Co. line. I think at first the location was very
close to the line because both the families of Christian, who lived in
Frederick, and 3 of his children, who lived in "then" Augusta, now
Rockingham, were baptized and attended there as early as 1762. The
church was re-built once before it was decided to join with a nearby
Reform church...the articles joining the churches were signed by Jacob
and Daniel (sons of Christian) and also Peter Miller, a son-in-law. The
church was re-located to a point near the town of Magaheysville, VA and
called The Reformed Lutheran Church" [ Ernest Grubb email of 19 Nov
1997]
1769, Mar - the will of Christian Grubb is probated. [Will Book 5, p.
477. Federick Co., Virginia]
Will dated 4 March1769. Frederick County Will book 5 page 477
It was recorded in Winchester in Frederick Co., VA. Catherine is
named as his wife and all of his eight children. Abraham, his son, was
named executor of the estate. He also inherits the bulk of the estate
beside being the controller of his mother's share. We must assume that
Abraham is the oldest of the children by the position as executor. This
probably means that he was the oldest of the surviving children. He
could possibly be the oldest surviving male child. Christian apparently
dies within the month of between Mar. 4 and Apr. 4 of 1769
Frederick County Clerk's Office, Winchester, VIRGINIA dated March 4,
1769 Proven April 4, 1769.
In the Name of God Amen I Christian Grubb of Frederick County in the
Colony of Virginia being Weak in Body but of sound Memory Blessed be
God do as it to day this fourth day of March in the Year of our Lord
one Thousand Seven hundred and Sixty nine make and Publish this by Last
Will & Testament in manner following (that is to say) First I give
my son Jacob Grubb the sum of three Pounds one Pound to be paid one
Year after my Decease and one pound to be paid one Year after my
Decease and one Pound three Years after my Decease also I Give to my
son Daniel Grubb and to my daughter Barbara Grubb and Catharine Grubb
and Frank Grubb and John Grubb and Margaret Grubb Each of them the sum
of five Shillings to paid on demd. after my decease and also I give
unto my son Abraham Grubb to his Heirs and Assigns that Plantation or
Tract of Land I now Live on situate on Stoney Creek in this County also
I Give to my wife Catharine Grubb the third part of my whole Estate
during her Natural Life and Widowhood and what Remains of my Estate
& Cattle and Houshold goods all and every I Give to my Son Abraham
Grubb to his Heirs and Assigns forever and I make and ordain him my
said son Abraham Grubb Sole Executor of this my Last Will in Trust for
the Intents and purposes in this my Will Contained to take Care and see
the same Performed according to my True Intent and meaning in Witness
whereof I the said Christian Grubb have to this my Last Will and
Testament set my hand and seal the day and Year above Written Signed
Sealed & Delivered by the said Christian Grubb as and for His Last
Will and Testament in teh Presence of us who were present at the )
Signing and sealing thereof)
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John X Crenwine
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| Jacob Rinker Junr. |
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At a Court Held for Frederick County April 4 1769.
This Last Will and Testament of Christina Grubb decd. was proved by the
oaths of the Witnesses thereton and ordered to be recorded. Upon the
Motion of Abraam Grubb the Executer therein Named, who made oath therto
Certificate is Granted him for obtaining a Probate therof In due form
he having entered into Bond together with jacom Rinker and Matthias
Painter his Securitys in the Penalty of Two hundred Pounds Conditioned
for Faithful Adminstration & the sd. Decedents Estate.
By the Court
. . . Ja. Keith C. Ct.
This is to certify that the foregoing will of Christian Grubb is a
true copy of record as found in the Frederick County Clerk's Office at
Winchester, Virginia.
signed Lucy K. Holister, Notary Public in and for County of Frederick ,
State of Virginia, Feb. 11, 1967
The following inventory of Christina Grubb's estate gives further
information on its assessed value.
INVENTORY OF CHRISTINA GRUBB, DECD. WILL BOOK 3 - PAGE 503 -
RECORDED AUGUST 2, 1769
FREDERICK COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, WINCHESTER, VIRGINIA
"An Atteachment of the Personal Estate of Christina Grubb Deceased of
Frederick County in the Colny of Virginia which being Appraised by John
Six Cullip Sink & Isaac Funkhouser the Twenty ninth day of July
1769"
| One bay Mare £7..10 one Dun Horse £2..5 .... |
9..15..0 |
| One Bay Horse £5.. 10......................... |
5..10..0 |
| One Cow Bells £2..2 ..one Cow with Star on Forehead
.... |
3..17..0 |
| One Heifer £ 1..7 1 Black Heifer 18/ 1 Bull £2
.... |
3.. 5..0 |
| One Black Bull 18/ one Specked Heifer 14/........ |
1..12..0 |
| One Black Heifer 10/ one Specked Bull 8 / 1 Cow Calf 4 ....
|
1.. 2..0 |
| one Red Calf 4/ one Calf 5/ 1 Cow and Calf £2..10 |
2..19..0 |
| A Parcel of Hogs £3 1 Truck Wagon £ 1 .........
|
4.. 0..0 |
| Seven Hives of Bees £2 Nine Empty Bee Hives 11/ |
2..11..0 |
| One Cross Cut saw £1 Cooper Tools 13/ ..... |
1..13..0 |
| Seven Augers 15/ four Chisels and a pair Pinchers 5/ .... |
1.. 0..0 |
| One Adse and Trumpery 5/ one Log Chain 7/ ...... |
0..12..0 |
| Two Grubing hoes 11/ one Maul and Wedges 6/ ..... |
0..17..0 |
| Two Axes 5/ Three Weading hoes 9/ one Gun 12/ ...... |
1..6..0 |
| One prow 2/6/ Three sicles 2 Oats Credles & sizes 8/
.... |
0..17..6 |
| One grindstone 10/ one Saddle 8/ some Horse Gears 5/ ..... |
1.. 3..0 |
| Two Iron Pots and 2 Pans & other Implements 13/
........... |
0..13..0 |
| Pewter War 12/ Cooper Ware 13/ ............. |
1.. 5..0 |
| Four Powdering Tubs and other Implements 9/ ....... |
0.. 9..0 |
| One Half Barrel and other Implements 10/ .......... |
1.. 8..0 |
| Plough & Plough Tacklings 18/ 6 Books 10/ ........ |
1.. 8..0 |
| One Chest 8/ one Half Bushel 3/ 1 Taylor Share 1/ ...... |
0..12..0 |
| Some Bottles 3/ Three Bells 4/ three Bags 7/ 1 Sickle 8/
..... |
1.. 2..0 |
| Gold Seales 4/ Wheat and Rie £5/10 ........... |
5..14..0 |
| Cash 17/ one Mortar 3/ .................... |
0.. 2..6 |
At a court Continued and Held for Frederick County August 2nd 1769 This
Appraise of the Estate of Christina Grubb Decd. was Returned in to
Court ordered to be Recorded.
By the Court
James Keith ...... C. Ct.
from a transcribed copy made in Feb. 11, 1967 Frederick Co.,
Viriginia
1769 Mar - We know that Abraham was named executor of Christian's
will and received 2/3 of the land. He sold this to Abel Roberts 6 years
after his father's death and also sold his mother's share after her
death in 1778.
1771- 3 Aug. - Jacob Grubb purchases 79 acres. "On the north side of
the Picked Mountain on a branch of Smith's Creek." [Patents No. 40,
1771-72, p.620, Augusta County, VA]
In a letter 3 Feb 1963, Polly Phillips of Knoxville, TN. a descendant
of Jacob Jr. written to Olive Grubb Devore.
"Jacob Grub lived in Grainger Co., Tennessee in 1815. Jacob Jr.
lived near Luttrell. Barbara Grub the wife of old Jacob predeceased
Jacob, and he remarried. The name of wife No. 2 we never learned, She
was always referred to as "that woman". It seems that she got all Jacob
had and his children were left without an inheritance. They and their
children wer used to being well off. Jacob was living in Jefferson
County, Tenn. when he died. The area is now covered with the waters of
Cherokee Lake. In the 1830's he was a member of the "Black Oak" Baptist
Church. If the church records were available we might find some record
of him. Jacob's land in Grainger Co. was in the Indian Cave vicinity...
Feb. 19, 1839 Jacob of Jefferson Co. sold to Joel Coffee land in
Grainger Co., including the John and Elizabeth tract and Indian Ridge
Mar. 6, 1839 Jacob and Joab Lyon took up 5000 acres in Sevier Co. on
the waters of the Little River near the Smokey Mts; Also he, Joab,
Joseph, and Jonathon Newman and Thomas Hanson took up another 5000
acres which was surveyed 10/201840. His wife did not like the
mountains, and they moved back to Jefferson Co... just walked off and
left it. Too bad they didn't hold on to it. Jacob sold land Feb. 20,
1847 130 acre to David Tate 100 acres south side Holston R. $1200.00
There was a question about Jacob's deed as late as the 1940's when TVA
purchased the land. "
children:
John (s/o Jacob) Grubb b. Abt 1802
Henry Grubb b. 1803 m. 10 Sept 1825 Grainger Co., TN, Salley Waddell.
Abrahm Grubb b. 04 Mar 1804
Jacob Grubb, Jr. b. abt. 1806
Elizabeth Grubb b. Abt. 1809
Edwin Grubb (1830 Census Grainger Co., TN) [Polly Philip's letter
concerning Jacob's second marriage. records of Ernest Grubb]
1878, 16, Feb.- Jacob Grubb purchases 240a. On Middle Fox Creek.
[Grayson Co., VA. Grants 119, p. 753] This may be Jacob's son.
source:
Whipple, Judith Cox quote from "European Origins of the Brethren": A
Source book of the Beginnings of the Church of the Brethren in the
Early Eighteenth Century, Elgin, Illinois., The Brethren Press, 1958,
pp. 296-298.
The Church of the Brethren Network, http//www.cob-net.org/
Hinke, Prof. William J. and Kemper, Charles E. editors. Records of the
Peaked Mountain Church, Rockingham Co., VA.
Grubb, Georgia Jane. "My Name's Grubb", by Lib. of Cong. #75-27342
Land records of Frederick Co., VA.
Passenger List of the "Robert and Alice" Sept. 11, 1738
Probate records of Frederick Co., VA. Will Book 5, p. 477.
Progenealogits records, The Ship "Allen" 1729.
http://www.progenealogists,com/palproject/pa/1729allen.htm
records of Olive Grubb DeVore and George Wanger, Grubb family
historian, 1913,
records of Ernest Grubb. Egrubb@a-o.com
Roots Web records of the Peaked Mtn. Church -
ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/rockingham/churches/peakmtn.txt
Will of Christian Grubb, Will Book 3, pg. 477, proved 4 APR 1769;
Frederick Co., VA.
Franklin State / Sullivan Co., Tenn H
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