Christian
Grubb Jr. Family
Switzerland/Germany, Pennsylvania, Virginia
Christian
Grubb(Cropp/Kropf/Kropp) JR.
b. c1703 Switzerland/Germany (age according to ship 1738 doc.)
d. Mar 1769 Frederick County, Virginia
m. Catherine Rosina Kipp about
1729-32 (probably in Switzerland/Germany)
b. abt 1710 Germany/Switzerland(according to children's births and
expected marriage]
d. abt 1778 Virginia
her father: unknown
mother: unknown
his father: Christian Cropp /Kropf
his mother: Rosina ?
| Children |
| Abraham Grubb (1)* |
b. 1732 probably Penn.
|
d. 1812 Sullivan Co., Tenn. |
m. Elizabeth c1765 (b. Penn. ) |
| Barbara Grubb |
b. |
d . |
m. Martin Finder |
| Catherine Grubb* |
b. |
d. |
m. |
| Frank Grubb* |
b. |
may have stayed in PA |
no records of this person have been found to date |
| John Grubb* |
b. |
d. may have stayed in PA |
no records of this person have been found to date |
| Jacob Grubb |
b. abt 1736 # |
d. abt 1802 Probably Sullivan County, TN |
m. Anna Barbara Metzger 02 MAR 1762 Augusta County, VA#
(dau of Eroge Valetine Metzger and Anna Elisabeth ?) |
| Daniel Grubb |
b. abt 1738# |
d. |
m. Elizabeth (Grubb) |
| Anna Maria "Margaret" Grubb |
b. abt 1744 # |
d. |
m. Peter Miller SR. -
2 Mar 1762 Aug. Co., VA ,son of Henry Mueller |
* children proved by will of Christian Grubb
# birth dates by baptismal records, marriage records of Peak
Mountain Church.
For years we believed that Christian Grubb and his family came on
the "Robert and Alice" in 1738. Recently we became aware of
the family entering on the "Allen" in 1729. This has caused us
to reassess the alignment of the first two known generation in the
colonies. Although this family is the family listed by Jane
Grubb Creel's book "My Name's Grubb," the baptismal records of the
Peak Mountain Church casts doubts about the birthdates of the
children as reported in her book, . The order of birth may actually
be different than we have listed for the first four children.
Abraham became executor of the estate of Christian Grubb and we
(Ernest Grubb and Cheryl G.) therefore conclude he must be the
oldest although he could be the oldest of the surviving children as
easily. Or perhaps simply the oldest son.
1729-
We know for certain that Christian Grubb
Sr. and his family were members of the Brethren
church, also known as the Anabaptists or German
Baptists. There is a list of converts who joined the
German Baptist Brethren in Europe which includes the names
of Daniel, Jacob, Andrew, Christian and Christian Cropp
Jr. [Brethren Church Rec.] Meaning, of course,
that they joined before 1729 when they came to the colonies
on the ship "Allen" that arrived in the colonies from
Rotterdam on September 11, 1729, James Craigie, master.
["Passengers of the Allen" - The Brethren Network].
All the men listed here were also listed as passengers on
the "Allen" along with Rosine Kropf, is identified by
position on the list as the wife of Christian Sr.
There were no children under the age of 15 with this name.
On this list were fifty-nine families from Palatine area of
Germany that made up "about hundred and twenty six persons"
(I counted 132). Daniel Kropf is listed as "sick" as
well as being separately listed many individuals away from
the others in the list. We believe this means that he
was not child of Christian Sr. but could have been a brother
or cousin. [roster of Progenealogits]
as listed in the record:
Christoph Kropf
Rosina
Andreas
Kropf "sick"
Jacob Kropf
Christoph
Kropf, jun.
second to the last in the list
Daniel Kropf
Ms. Whipple indicates that the group of Brethren were led by
Alexander Mack, a minister from Surhuisterveen,
Holland. Apparently Mack went into Germany converted
and recruited pilgrims to emigrate. The area that they
came from is identified as the region of Wittgenstein.
I found the general
area and the actual town of Wittgenstein only a few miles
west of the town of Laasphe. This is almost
exactly in the middle of a triangle made by the towns of
Koln, Kassels and Frankfurt in present day Germany. [
Whipple, Judith Cox - Brethren Network]
There has always been a question about how or why Christian
came to the colonies. We feel certain that it was to
escape persecution for his religious beliefs. The
Anabaptist or Dunkers, as a group, believed that infant
baptism was much too premature and began urging re-baptism
of the adult populous. They also believed that
swearing an oath of loyalty to anyone but God was
wrong. This was viewed as blasphemy and treasonous and
brought down reactions that included psychological and
physical abuse including being burned at the stake.
[Brethren Network]
We know that Christian Jr first came in 1729. We know
that both Christian and Christian Jr. came at the same time
with his father's wife. I believe that the
family we have here on this page is actually Christian
Jr. He had to have been an adult over age 15 when he
came here and according to the 1738 ship record in which he
was 35, this would have made him 29 years old in 1729.
We believe he was born then in Germany but his children
would have to be born in the colonies. If the other
children's birthdates are correct, he may have been
gone only for a year or two. Since Rosini Kropf is
listed next to Christian Sr. in the
Progenealogits records , I assumed her to be
his wife and the probably mother of Christian
Jr. In the Peak Mountain church record of 1762,
however, we know that Christian was married to "Rosina,
nee
Kipp".
Christian Grubb Sr. would probably have died by this point
based on the age of Christian on his trip in 1738. I
believe that Christian Sr. would have been minimally 94
years old 1762.
1738, Sept. 11 - Christian Grub[sic] arrived at Philadephia, PA from
Rotterdam on board the "Robert and Alice." He is apparently
traveling be himself and his age is listed as 35 years old. No
other Grub/Grubb/Krupf are on board. He does list his
destination as Lancaster, we believe PA. There are
several other families that are also going to Lancaster in the
list. We don't know if they had any relationship with our
Christian.
All male passengers signed into the ship's log. Christian signed in
German as Christian Krupf. Wanger believed that Christian Grubb
possibly came from Germany. Others believe they may have been from
the German speaking region of Switzerland. [records of Devore
& Wanger] All passengers were required to take an Oath of
Allegiance to the King of England. Christian signed in his native
language of German. [List of immigrants taking "oath" Sept.11, 1738
Philadelphia] The Grubs went to Pennsylvania first then to Virginia.
1738 - Christian Kropf Jr. received a warrant for land in
Tulpehocken Township, Lancaster county Pennsylvania. [Pough] I think the date here is wrong based
on the following document.
1741, Dec 10 - The following
document is handwritten and faint in areas. The digital
image is available on Ancestry.com. The date is very legible.
Pennsylvania
By the Proprietaries
Whereas by virtue of a Warrant
under our Sofser Seal bearing unto the tenth day of August
in the year of our lord 1737 a
survey of One hundred and fourteen acres of land laying within
Tulpahocca Township in the
County of Lancaster was made unto Jacob Hoobler of the same
county under (? other)
Conditions the Said Warrant mentioned which Conditions not
having been
complied with by the said Jacob
Hoobler the said Warrant and Survey made in pursuance thereof
or become utterley (??) And Christian Kropf having
requested that we would grant him the
said land under the same Metes
and Bounds and agreed to pay to our use the Consideration
Money which ought to have been
paid by the said Jacob Hoobler for the same
Then are to authorize and
require you to accept and receive the aforesaid Survey and make
return of the same for the use
and Behoof of the said Christian
Kropf into our Secretary's
Office in order for the
Confirmation for which this shall be your sufficient Warrant
Proven
under my Hand and the Seal of
the Land Office by Virtue of certain Powers from
the said Proprietaries at
Philadelphia this Tenth day of December Anno Domini 1741.
Pio: Thomas
To William Parfons Surveyor
General
[Pennsylvania, Land Warrants and Applications, 1733-1952]
1761- Christian Grubb first known land purchase in Frederick Co.,
VA. Purchase was made 24 JUN 1761...from Burr Harrison and wife,
Mary Anne to Christian Grub, 400 acres in Frederick Co. on Stoney
Creek. [Deed Book 12, page 566, recorded 1768]
1762, SEPT 25 - Jacob Grubb purchases, 250a. "On the waters of
Smiths Creek near the foot of the Peeked Mountains." [Patents No.
35, 1762-64, p.13, Augusta County, VA] Baptismal records of the
church in 1762 state that Jacob was 26 years old., Daniel was 24 and
Margaret was 18. A (AD)
1762. At the "Pinquit" (Peaked) Mountain and the South "Chanithor"
(Shenandoah), in Virginia, the following children were baptized on
Saturday, February 27th [note 2]:
| parents |
children |
sponsor |
Christian Kroph
and wife Rosina, nee Kipp |
(35) Jacob , aged 26,years |
John Jacob Nicolaus and wife Anna Barbara
|
| (ditto) |
(36) Daniel, age 24 |
Jacob Arkebrech (Argenbright) and wife Susanna |
| (ditto) |
(37) Margaret, age 18 years |
I.C. Van Gemuenden,the Reformed minister wife, M.A. Van
Germuenden, also Jacob Perschinger, Reformed elder, and
wife Maria Catharine |
The Peaked Mountain Church was an early German Lutheran church
and holds some of the earliest records of colonist of German
descent. In various records of the Peaked Mountain Church, their
last name is spelled at least three different ways. Early records
spell the name as Krupt, later changed to Kruph, translated as
Croop, late listings as Grub or Grubb.
[ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/rockingham/churches/peakmtn.txt]
According to the records of Peaked Mountain Church, Rockingham Co.,
VA all of the eight children of Christian Grub did not come over on
the "Robert and Alice". Records of the church refer to his "5 sons
and 3 dau." Ernest Grubb writes:
that the "Peaked Mountain Church.(is) located near the Old
Frederick and Augusta Co. line. I think at first the location
was very close to the line because both the families of
Christian, who lived in Frederick, and 3 of his children, who
lived in "then" Augusta, now Rockingham, were baptized and
attended there as early as 1762. The church was re-built once
before it was decided to join with a nearby Reform church...the
articles joining the churches were signed by Jacob and Daniel
(sons of Christian) and also Peter Miller, a son-in-law. The
church was re-located to a point near the town of Magaheysville,
VA and called The Reformed Lutheran Church" [ Ernest Grubb email
of 19 Nov 1997]
1762- marriages, Peaked Mountain Church records. [
On March 2, Jacob Kropp
(Cropp), son of Christian Kropp, and Anna Barbara Metzger,
daughter of George Valentine Metzger.
On March 2. Peter Mueller, son of Henry Mueller, and
Margaret Kropp, daughter of Chritian Kropp. [William and
Mary Quarterly. p.188] also [Virginia Vital Records, Record
of the Peaked Mountain Church, page 487]
"On Saturday, Feb. 27, 1762 was received as member of this
concregation, upon confession of her faith, Margaret Kropp (Cropp)
1763, August 3- Peaked Mountain Church baptism
Valentine Metzger and wife
Mary Elizabeth,
parents
child Jacob, born Apr. 16 1765, bapt. June 18,
spons. Jacob Argebrecht & wife Susanna
Jacob Cropp and wife Anna
Barbara--parents
child
John,
born
Mar.
9,
1765; bapt. June 18. spons. John
Argebrecht and Catharine Vogt.
1769, Mar - the will of Christian Grubb is probated. [Will Book 5,
p. 477. Federick Co., Virginia]
Will dated 4 March1769. Frederick County Will book 5 page 477
It was recorded in Winchester in Frederick Co., VA. Catherine is
named as his wife and all of his eight children. Abraham, his son,
was named executor of the estate. He also inherits the bulk of the
estate beside being the controller of his mother's share. We must
assume that Abraham is the oldest of the children by the position
as executor. This probably means that he was the oldest of the
surviving children. He could possibly be the oldest surviving male
child. Christian apparently dies within the month of between Mar.
4 and Apr. 4 of 1769
Frederick County Clerk's Office, Winchester, VIRGINIA dated March
4, 1769 Proven April 4, 1769.
In the Name of God Amen I Christian Grubb of Frederick County in
the Colony of Virginia being Weak in Body but of sound Memory
Blessed be God do as it to day this fourth day of March in the
Year of our Lord one Thousand Seven hundred and Sixty nine make
and Publish this by Last Will & Testament in manner following
(that is to say) First I give my son Jacob Grubb the sum of three
Pounds one Pound to be paid one Year after my Decease and one
pound to be paid one Year after my Decease and one Pound three
Years after my Decease also I Give to my son Daniel Grubb and to
my daughter Barbara Grubb and Catharine Grubb and Frank Grubb and
John Grubb and Margaret Grubb Each of them the sum of five
Shillings to paid on demd. after my decease and also I give unto
my son Abraham Grubb to his Heirs and Assigns that Plantation or
Tract of Land I now Live on situate on Stoney Creek in this County
also I Give to my wife Catharine Grubb the third part of my whole
Estate during her Natural Life and Widowhood and what Remains of
my Estate & Cattle and Houshold goods all and every I Give to
my Son Abraham Grubb to his Heirs and Assigns forever and I make
and ordain him my said son Abraham Grubb Sole Executor of this my
Last Will in Trust for the Intents and purposes in this my Will
Contained to take Care and see the same Performed according to my
True Intent and meaning in Witness whereof I the said Christian
Grubb have to this my Last Will and Testament set my hand and seal
the day and Year above Written Signed Sealed & Delivered by
the said Christian Grubb as and for His Last Will and Testament in
teh Presence of us who were present at the )
Signing and sealing thereof)
his
Jacob r Rinker Senr
mark
|
his
Christian C Grubb
mark
|
|
his
John X Crenwine
mark
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| Jacob Rinker Junr. |
|
At a Court Held for Frederick County April 4 1769.
This Last Will and Testament of Christina Grubb decd. was proved
by the oaths of the Witnesses thereton and ordered to be
recorded. Upon the Motion of Abraam Grubb the Executer therein
Named, who made oath therto Certificate is Granted him for
obtaining a Probate therof In due form he having entered into
Bond together with jacom Rinker and Matthias Painter his
Securitys in the Penalty of Two hundred Pounds Conditioned for
Faithful Adminstration & the sd. Decedents Estate.
By the Court
. . . Ja. Keith C. Ct.
This is to certify that the foregoing will of Christian Grubb is
a true copy of record as found in the Frederick County Clerk's
Office at Winchester, Virginia.
signed Lucy K. Holister, Notary Public in and for County of
Frederick , State of Virginia, Feb. 11, 1967
The following inventory of Christina Grubb's estate gives further
information on its assessed value.
INVENTORY OF CHRISTINA GRUBB, DECD. WILL BOOK 3 - PAGE 503 -
RECORDED AUGUST 2, 1769
FREDERICK COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, WINCHESTER, VIRGINIA
"An Atteachment of the Personal Estate of Christina Grubb Deceased
of Frederick County in the Colny of Virginia which being Appraised
by John Six Cullip Sink & Isaac Funkhouser the Twenty ninth
day of July 1769"
| One bay Mare £7..10 one Dun Horse £2..5 .... |
9..15..0 |
| One Bay Horse £5.. 10......................... |
5..10..0 |
| One Cow Bells £2..2 ..one Cow with Star on Forehead ....
|
3..17..0 |
| One Heifer £ 1..7 1 Black Heifer 18/ 1 Bull £2 .... |
3.. 5..0 |
| One Black Bull 18/ one Specked Heifer 14/........ |
1..12..0 |
| One Black Heifer 10/ one Specked Bull 8 / 1 Cow Calf 4
.... |
1.. 2..0 |
| one Red Calf 4/ one Calf 5/ 1 Cow and Calf £2..10 |
2..19..0 |
| A Parcel of Hogs £3 1 Truck Wagon £ 1 ......... |
4.. 0..0 |
| Seven Hives of Bees £2 Nine Empty Bee Hives 11/ |
2..11..0 |
| One Cross Cut saw £1 Cooper Tools 13/ ..... |
1..13..0 |
| Seven Augers 15/ four Chisels and a pair Pinchers 5/
.... |
1.. 0..0 |
| One Adse and Trumpery 5/ one Log Chain 7/ ...... |
0..12..0 |
| Two Grubing hoes 11/ one Maul and Wedges 6/ ..... |
0..17..0 |
| Two Axes 5/ Three Weading hoes 9/ one Gun 12/ ...... |
1..6..0 |
| One prow 2/6/ Three sicles 2 Oats Credles & sizes 8/
.... |
0..17..6 |
| One grindstone 10/ one Saddle 8/ some Horse Gears 5/
..... |
1.. 3..0 |
| Two Iron Pots and 2 Pans & other Implements 13/
........... |
0..13..0 |
| Pewter War 12/ Cooper Ware 13/ ............. |
1.. 5..0 |
| Four Powdering Tubs and other Implements 9/ ....... |
0.. 9..0 |
| One Half Barrel and other Implements 10/ .......... |
1.. 8..0 |
| Plough & Plough Tacklings 18/ 6 Books 10/ ........ |
1.. 8..0 |
| One Chest 8/ one Half Bushel 3/ 1 Taylor Share 1/ ...... |
0..12..0 |
| Some Bottles 3/ Three Bells 4/ three Bags 7/ 1 Sickle 8/
..... |
1.. 2..0 |
| Gold Seales 4/ Wheat and Rie £5/10 ........... |
5..14..0 |
| Cash 17/ one Mortar 3/ .................... |
0.. 2..6 |
At a court Continued and Held for Frederick County August 2nd 1769
This Appraise of the Estate of Christina Grubb Decd. was Returned
in to Court ordered to be Recorded.
By the Court
James Keith ...... C. Ct.
from a transcribed copy made in Feb. 11, 1967 Frederick Co.,
Viriginia
1769 Mar - We know that Abraham was named executor of Christian's
will and received 2/3 of the land. He sold this to Abel Roberts 6
years after his father's death and also sold his mother's share
after her death in 1778.
1771- 3 Aug. - Jacob Grubb purchases 79 acres. "On the north side of
the Picked Mountain on a branch of Smith's Creek." [Patents No. 40,
1771-72, p.620, Augusta County, VA]
In a letter 3 Feb 1963, Polly Phillips of Knoxville, TN. a
descendant of Jacob Jr. written to Olive Grubb Devore.
"Jacob Grub lived in Grainger Co., Tennessee in 1815. Jacob Jr.
lived near Luttrell. Barbara Grub the wife of old Jacob
predeceased Jacob, and he remarried. The name of wife No. 2 we
never learned, She was always referred to as "that woman". It
seems that she got all Jacob had and his children were left
without an inheritance. They and their children wer used to
being well off. Jacob was living in Jefferson County, Tenn. when
he died. The area is now covered with the waters of Cherokee
Lake. In the 1830's he was a member of the "Black Oak" Baptist
Church. If the church records were available we might find some
record of him. Jacob's land in Grainger Co. was in the Indian
Cave vicinity...
Feb. 19, 1839 Jacob of Jefferson Co. sold to Joel Coffee land in
Grainger Co., including the John and Elizabeth tract and Indian
Ridge Mar. 6, 1839 Jacob and Joab Lyon took up 5000 acres in
Sevier Co. on the waters of the Little River near the Smokey
Mts; Also he, Joab, Joseph, and Jonathon Newman and Thomas
Hanson took up another 5000 acres which was surveyed 10/201840.
His wife did not like the mountains, and they moved back to
Jefferson Co... just walked off and left it. Too bad they didn't
hold on to it. Jacob sold land Feb. 20, 1847 130 acre to David
Tate 100 acres south side Holston R. $1200.00 There was a
question about Jacob's deed as late as the 1940's when TVA
purchased the land. "
children:
John (s/o Jacob) Grubb b. Abt 1802
Henry Grubb b. 1803 m. 10 Sept 1825 Grainger Co., TN, Salley
Waddell.
Abrahm Grubb b. 04 Mar 1804
Jacob Grubb, Jr. b. abt. 1806
Elizabeth Grubb b. Abt. 1809
Edwin Grubb (1830 Census Grainger Co., TN) [Polly Philip's
letter concerning Jacob's second marriage. records of Ernest
Grubb]
1776- October 9th. Peaked Mountain Church records show
p.255
Daniel
Grub
and
Elizabeth
are
parents
child
Mary
Catharine,
born
Dec.
1, 1775 sponsors Peter
Miller and wife Anna Maria
Martin Finder and Barbara are
parents
child Barbara born Feb. 24, 1776
sponsors Jacob Grub and Barbara
1878, 16, Feb.- Jacob Grubb purchases 240a. On Middle Fox Creek.
[Grayson Co., VA. Grants 119, p. 753] This may be Jacob's son.
source:
Church of the Brethren Network, http//www.cob-net.org/
Grubb, Ernest.(now deceased.) records of Olive Grubb DeVore and
George Wanger, Grubb family historian, 1913,
Grubb, Georgia Jane. "My Name's Grubb", by Lib. of Cong. #75-27342
Hinke, Prof. William J. and Kemper, Charles E. editors. Records
of the Peaked Mountain Church, Rockingham Co., VA. , William
and Mary Quarterly, Vol. 13, No. 4. Apr. 1905. p. 247-256
Land records of Frederick Co., VA.
McGhan, Judith, indexed by. Virginia Vital Records, From the
Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, the William and Mary
College Quarterly, and Tyler's Quarterly. Genealogical Pub.
Co., Inc., Baltimore 1984.
Passenger List of the "Robert and Alice" Sept. 11, 1738
Probate records of Frederick Co., VA. Will Book 5, p. 477.
Progenealogits records, The Ship "Allen" 1729.
http://www.progenealogists,com/palproject/pa/1729allen.htm
Roots Web records of the Peaked Mtn. Church -
ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/rockingham/churches/peakmtn.txt
Whipple, Judith Cox quote from "European Origins of the Brethren":
A Source book of the Beginnings of the Church of the Brethren in
the Early Eighteenth Century, Elgin, Illinois., The Brethren
Press, 1958, pp. 296-298.
Will of Christian Grubb, Will Book 3, pg. 477, proved 4 APR 1769;
Frederick Co., VA.
History
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